Ethereum’s scalability challenges are no secret, but are current layer 2 solutions living up to their promise? Martin Köppelmann argues they fall short in inheriting Ethereum’s core strengths.
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Martin Köppelmann, co-founder of Gnosis, has proposed that Ethereum should have native rollups—a vision aimed at addressing scalability and decentralization.
Köppelmann critiques the current state of layer 2 solutions, highlighting their limitations in fully inheriting Ethereum’s security and composability.
He proposes a bold alternative: 128 Ethereum-native rollups designed to expand block space, strengthen alignment with Ethereum’s core principles, and ensure long-term viability for developers and users.
Plus, Martin tackles the controversies: Are L2s parasitic? Could native rollups spell the end for existing solutions? And why should they rely on zero-knowledge proofs instead of Optimism?

Show highlights:
🔹 Whether the Ethereum scaling roadmap is accomplishing its goals
🔹 Why based rollups are not a full solution, according to Martin
🔹 What Martin proposes instead
🔹 Why Martin is proposing these rollups to be ZK-rollups instead of optimistic
🔹 Whether the proposed solution would focus on privacy
🔹 What it is about chain abstraction that Martin doesn’t like
🔹 How he envisions that these native rollups will solve many composability issues across L2s
🔹 Whether the community has embraced this proposal and how likely it is to be implemented
🔹 What would happen to current L2s if native rollups get implemented
🔹 Why, despite being against the current state of L2s, Martin says that they are not parasitic to Ethereum

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Guest:
⭐️Martin Köppelmann, Co-founder and CEO of Gnosis
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:47 Is Ethereum’s scaling roadmap meeting its goals?
04:07 Why Martin believes based rollups aren’t the full solution
08:11 Martin’s bold proposal for native rollups
12:07 Why ZK-rollups over optimistic rollups
15:56 Whether these rollups should also preserve privacy
17:11 Martin’s issue with chain abstraction
22:35 How native rollups could solve L2 composability problems
26:49 Has the community embraced Martin’s vision?
30:52 What happens to existing L2s if native rollups win
36:06 Whether Martin thinks L2s are parasitic to Ethereum

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